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Appointment to the DNA Oversight and Ethics Board confirmed

Mon, Feb 9th, 2015

Last week I received a letter such as none I have ever received before.

It was signed by the Minister of Police and confirmed my appointment as a Member and Deputy Chairperson of the National Forensic Oversight and Ethics Board. This part time appointment will run for the next five years.

The reason I am so excited about this appointment is because key to the successful implementation of the DNA Act, is the establishment of this Oversight Board which will provide ethical oversight over the National DNA database and handle complaints relating to the taking, retention and use of DNA samples and forensic DNA profiles. Comprising of ten members, half of which have been chosen from outside of the Government sector, this Oversight Board’s core functions will include monitoring the implementation of the provisions of the DNA Act and making proposals to the Minister for any improvements regarding the overall operations of the database.

Looking at countries around the world which have introduced DNA legislation in the past, they have all done so under the guidance of some form of Oversight Board in response to meeting the commitments imposed upon it by any new DNA legislation. An oversight body furthermore creates accountability and functions as a watchdog not only to ensure ethical compliance with the provisions of the Act but compliance with the time frames within which forensic DNA profiles should be analysed and loaded onto the DNA Database. The purpose of a DNA Database is to load as many arrestee and convicted offender profiles onto the Database, and this important expansion process needs to be closely monitored.

I for one feel honoured to have been tasked with this important role and have notified the Minister that I gladly and willingly accept the appointment and look forward to the important work ahead in helping ensure that the DNA Act is properly and optimally implemented. I do and have always believed that the DNA Act will have a profound effect on crime resolution in South Africa and am delighted to be have been chosen so that I can continue to be part of this process.

The Act states that the first meeting of the Oversight Board has to be held within 30 days of the Act having been declared operational, which is 30 days from the 31st January 2015: namely on or before 2nd March 2015. I am ready as ever and look forward to meeting my new colleagues and hope they are as eager as I am to finally help translate the pages of this Act into real crime resolution.

In the meantime, the work of The DNA Project remains as important as ever —  we need to continue to create awareness around crime scene preservation. When a crime scene is not disturbed, forensic evidence has the power to determine exactly what happened and who committed the crime. Disturb the crime scene, and we lose that opportunity forever and no legislation nor Oversight Board, however good, can change that.

Vanessa Lynch

Highlights from ISHI25, Phoenix, Arizona and SFO, USA

Mon, Oct 20th, 2014

Vanessa Lynch outside the Californian Dept. of Justice Forensci DNA Lab, follwoing a tour of the facility and a presentation

Vanessa Lynch outside the Californian Dept. of Justice Forensic DNA Lab, following a tour of the facility and a presentation.

It is hard to believe that almost three weeks have passed since I set off for the USA where I was so unbelievably lucky to have attended and presented at the 25th International Symposium on Human Identification (ISHI25) in Phoenix, Arizona as well as visit and present at two significant Forensic Science Labs in San Francisco, CA.

Thank you to both Promega and Thermo Fisher for providing me with this amazing opportunity.

At any given time, I honestly felt that I needed to pinch myself to assure myself that I was not dreaming! Not only did I meet renowned international leaders in the field of forensic DNA technology, but I learned so much about how and why different administrations treat the collection and retention of DNA profiles in the way that they do.

In so doing, I was able to gain greater perspective on what we are doing in South Africa, where we are in keeping with the advances in this technology and where sadly, we are still falling way, way behind. I say this because whilst we are still fighting for our DNA Act to become operational, and have just moved from sequencing 10 to 16 loci for our forensic DNA profiles, the rest of the world with developed DNA Databases, are using 24 loci and talking about implementing New Generation Sequencing – with this platform, and I quote (!), “there is increased interpretation of degraded DNA because SNPs can theoretically be amplified with as little as 50-70 nucleotide long amplicons instead of the longer amplicons needed for STRs.” Click here to read more if this excites you!

Vanessa Lynch with John Butler, author of Advanced Topics in Forensic DNA Typing: Interpretation. His 1st edition of Forensic DNA Typing, published in 2001, quickly established itself as the gold-standard reference for the field. Over the next ten years, the vast amount of new information uncovered has resulted in this new volume.

Vanessa Lynch with John Butler, author of Advanced Topics in Forensic DNA Typing: Interpretation. His 1st edition of Forensic DNA Typing, published in 2001, quickly established itself as the gold-standard reference for the field. Over the next ten years, the vast amount of new information uncovered has resulted in this new volume.

For an overview of the ISHI conference and what was presented, please read the below summary by Terri Sundquist, which also happens to briefly mention my presentation…

“I was one of almost 1,000 people who attended the 25th International Symposium on Human Identification (ISHI25) in Phoenix, Arizona. This scientific meeting brings together DNA analysts from forensic and paternity labs, research scientists and others with an interest in DNA-based identification to learn about new technologies, policy and process changes, and current and future trends in DNA typing. There were so many great presentations and learning opportunities, how do I pick just a few of them to highlight?”

To read more, please click here http://www.promegaconnections.com/highlights-from-ishi25/

On a lighter note, two conversations which I found somewhat bemusing, were the ones I had with the Forensic Scientists from the Singapore and Chinese DNA Forensic Labs respectively.

The first conversation, with Singapore, revolved around the Oscar Pistoruis Trial: I was simply told that in Singapore, Mr Pistorius would now be dead – for the simple reason that it is illegal to own a firearm in Singapore, and if found to have one in your possession, it is life imprisonment. If anyone discharges a firearm, even accidentally, into the floor, it is the death sentence. It is no wonder that when I asked the scientist from Singapore how many criminal cases they deal with a year, the answer was : no more than 20 – per year!

New Generation Sequencing....

New Generation Sequencing....

The other conversation that left my jaw dropping, was with the Chinese scientist. This scientist correctly deduced that our number of arrestees and convicted offenders per annum is going to far outweigh our laboratory capacity, (especially at the start of the new DNA Act’s implementation) and accordingly suggested that we send samples to China to be processed because they can process as many as 800,000 samples per month — compare this to our anticipated capacity of approximately around 34,000 per month!

On that note, let’s not forget that our Minister of Police, Mr Nkosinathi Nhleko, has not yet declared our DNA Act to be operational nor has the appointment of the National Forensic Oversight and Ethics Board been appointed — two critical factors which inhibit the implementation of the new DNA Act. If we are not taking samples from arrestees and convicted offenders, that means we are not loading profiles onto our DNA Database. It is no longer a question of whether a DNA Database is a valuable criminal intelligence tool — it is a given and the use and successes of Forensic DNA Databases are undisputed worldwide.

Unlike in Singapore, in South Africa, we probably have  20 criminal cases happening per minute, which is why the urgent operational date of this Act needs to be declared.

We have the tools, now let’s get on with the business of using those tools! Please Mr Minister – this ought to be a top priority on your agenda.

Vanessa Lynch

Thank you OSF-SA

Fri, Oct 17th, 2014

Yesterday I submitted our final progress report to the Open Society Foundation for South Africa [OSF-SA]. This brings to a close 7 years of funding and support we have received from the OSF-SA since 2007.

OSF-Header

The OSF-SA first contacted me on the 3rd October 2007 following a programme on Carte Blanche which highlighted the work we were doing and what we were trying to achieve in SA. The then Programme Director of the Criminal Justice Initiative of the OSF-SA ,  having watched the programme, sent me the following email:

“Dear Vanessa

The Open Society Foundation for South Africa (OSF-SA) is a grant making organisation based in Cape Town (www.osf.org.za). The goal of the Criminal Justice Initiative (CJI) as a programme of the Foundation is to build accountability within the criminal justice system with the intention of ensuring a more humane, efficient and accountable criminal justice process as a whole. To this end, the CJI provides funding to a range of NGO’s working in the field of criminal justice.

While we can give no guarantees of financial support at this stage, we would be very interested in hearing more about the DNA Project and its work. If you are interested in setting up an initial exploratory meeting with us, please give me a call or send me an e-mail.

Kind regards
Louise”

Well, the rest as they say, is history. Following a meeting the next week with the OSF-SA and after drafting and submitting my first funding application on behalf of the DNA Project on the 19th October 2007, The OSF-SA provided The DNA Project with a development grant for R43 000 on the 3rd December 2007. This grant was our first official funding grant ever received and allowed the DNA Project to get off the ground and start fulfilling its objectives. Since that time, the OSF-SA has provided continuous assistance to our organisation by supporting the following initiatives:

• Developing our Post Graduate Honours Degree in Forensic Analysis;
• Lobbying Government to pass the DNA Act;
• Attending the Interpol DNA User’s Conference in Lyon in both 2010 and 2013;
• Producing and distributing DNA and Crime Scene Awareness Material throughout SA;
• Creating training protocols for DNA and crime scene awareness workshops;
• Hosting national DNA and Crime Scene Awareness Workshops amongst first on crime scene responders and the general public;
• Funding the operational costs of the organisation such as audit fees, support staff salaries and travel;
• Developing the website;
• Hosting a series of Legal workshops for officers of the court to ensure DNA’s optimal use in the criminal justice system;
• Registering a series of training materials and workshops with SASSETA for the DNA and crime scene awareness training protocols have developed;
• Publishing a paper for the CJI Occasional Paper Series on Forensic DNA Profiling.

May we take this opportunity to thank the OSF-SA for helping us to pursue and fulfil our stated objectives to date. Whilst our work is by no means over, their unconditional support of our organisation and the continued trust and belief they have shown in the work that we have done since 2007, has carried us through some of the most groundbreaking and challenging years we have faced in our efforts to maximise the use of DNA profiling in South Africa to help resolve crime.

with heartfelt appreciation and thanks from,

Vanessa Lynch and the rest of  The DNA Project Team.


A message from our amazing Funders: Change a Life

Fri, Sep 19th, 2014

Dear Change a Lifer

Every year in September, we get together for this event – great people, fantastic camaraderie, huge commitment – it is truly amazing. And then you realize that we have done this seven times and by the time we hand out the money from this tour, we will have given R25m to our project owners and their projects, and those feelings of amazement really become quite overwhelming.

It makes me extremely proud to be a small part of this – as I know it does for all of you.

In whatever capacity you contributed – as a cyclist, a sponsor, a member of the incredibly dedicated support crew – and so many of you have more than one role – it is your commitment that has made this Mystery Masquerade Tour yet another huge success for Change a Life.

This commitment is best demonstrated by the supreme efforts of the MTB team on the last day – 12 hours in the saddle – 255 Ks. Quite exceptional.

It’s the consistency of your support, however, that demonstrates the loyalty to Change a life – in whatever capacity you participate. So many of you were back again. The support crew epitomise this with many examples of dedication of which I will mention just two: Raymond Tloubatla, an ex‑Computershare employee, took leave from his new employer just to be with us and Wayne Fillis, whose only connection is that he is a friend of one of our employees, did likewise.

And when it comes to talking about loyalty and consistent commitment, what about Jonathan Scott? He gives so much of himself and his time in ensuring that we all have an exceptional experience.  He is always available and gives so much more than determining the route – he gets involved in every aspect of putting the Tour together; his knowledge and advice are absolutely invaluable.

Vanessa Lynch giving "Change a Lifers" feedback at a past event

Vanessa Lynch giving "Change a Lifers" feedback at a past event

We have now completed two-thirds of the seventh tour with the most important element – the report back – still to come. We look forward to seeing you all again at our next family gathering in about six weeks’ time when our project owners bring us up to date on the progress they have made.

On behalf of Ursula and myself, Change a Life and the Mike Thomson Change a Life Trust, our dedicated project owners and all the people whose lives they are changing – a most sincere thank you for your generous participation in the seventh Change a Life Cycle Tour and for the loyal support you all continue to give us.

We are making a difference!

Stan and Ursula

Unacceptable delay in training police to take DNA Samples

Wed, May 21st, 2014

The article which appeared on Saturday 17 May 2014 in the Weekend Argus bears witness to the fact that the new DNA Act depends on effective and efficient implementation in order to be rendered as a potent tool in the fight against crime. Click here to read the full article.

It is disappointing when so many people have worked so hard to get to this point, only to be thwarted by a delay such as this – the agreement between the FSL and the Dept. of Health simply needs to be signed by the DG of the Health Dept. in order to allow the police to be trained to take samples from arrestees and convicted offenders. It is unacceptable that a simple signature prevents this from happening.

Come on Health Dept – it’s your turn now to take action! The sooner we can start collecting samples form arrestees and convicted offenders and load those resultant DNA profiles onto the database, the sooner we can identify serial offenders and prevent further crimes. We know that DNA evidence will lead to much speedier trials by securing convictions and will allow for the identification of serial rapists. BUT – each day we wait is another day we allow criminals to continue their rampage on the innocent.

Vanessa Lynch

New Training DVD: from crime scene to courtroom

Tue, May 6th, 2014

This week we are shooting our new Crime Scene Awareness Training DVD in and around Cape Town. With the support and co-operation of SAPS, the FSL, the NPA and of course the DNA Project team, we will be chatting to forensic scientists, CSI’s, prosecutors and crime scene experts. This training DVD will cover actual cases and will gather information around the issue of how we can all help secure and protect valuable forensic evidence on a crime scene.

We are extremely grateful to our amazing funders, The Change a Life Trust for funding this critical project as well as the ever generous Tim Hancock Trust for assisting us when we almost didn’t have enough funds to go ahead with the production! We will be sharing the week with all of our DNAP followers as we take you through the journey with us: from crime scene to courtroom.

Watch this space, share, like and educate – crime scene awareness and the importance of preserving evidence on a crime scene is one of the biggest challenges in South Africa – and one in which we can all be part of resolving.

Vanessa & The DNA Project Team

DNA Act passed, mandatory DNA collection for serious crimes on the cards

Fri, Jan 31st, 2014

The path has been cleared for South Africa to have its own extensive DNA database for use by the South African Police Service (SAPS) in the investigation of crimes, writes Irma Venter for the Engineering News, 30 Jan 2014.


The DNA Act has been signed by President Jacob Zuma and published in the Government Gazette, bringing to fruition a decade of work for Vanessa Lynch and her colleagues from The DNA Project.

An attorney by training, Lynch formed nongovernmental organisation The DNA Project to pursue the goal of establishing a DNA database within SAPS.

Matching a human being’s distinct genetic blueprint, their DNA, found on a crime scene, to an extensive database of offenders may seem like a simple exercise. Done in almost every crime series on television, and at law enforcement agencies in numerous countries around the world, it is hard to believe this has not been a reality in South Africa.

However, Criminal Law (Forensic Procedures) Amendment Act, No 37 of 2013, now, finally, changes this.

There are “busy times ahead, but so exciting”, says Lynch.

The SAPS does currently have a DNA database, but it is populated by a mere, roughly, 180 000 profiles.

Prior to the new Act, there was no legislation regulating DNA collection by the SAPS, which meant it had no mandate to take DNA samples from those arrested for serious crimes, or from convicted offenders.

However, the new Act enables the establishment, regulation, administration and maintenance of what will be called the National Forensic DNA Database of South Africa.

It will make it mandatory for DNA samples to be collected by specially trained police officers from those arrested and convicted of serious offences.

If SAPS increases the number of profiles on its database, it will increase the chance of finding a match and linking a DNA profile found at a crime scene to a suspect, or, at the very least, deriving criminal intelligence therefrom.

Moreover, DNA profiles can also serve to exonerate convicted persons, as well as assist in the identification of missing persons and unidentified human remains.

SAPS last year estimated the cost of implementing the Act, over a three-year period, at R1.26-billion, of which the bulk will be operational costs, at around R900-million.

Implementing the Act will require the training of police officers, as well as the appointment of additional forensic analysts.

It’s official: The #DNABill has finally been passed into Law!

Tue, Jan 28th, 2014

Government Gazette, Vol. 583, No. 52 Cape Town, 27 January 2014 No. 37268
It is hereby notified that the President has assented to the following Act, which is hereby published for general information:—

Act No. 37 of 2013: Criminal Law (Forensic Procedures) Amendment Act, 2013

I have waited so long to read those words, so when this notice popped up into my Inbox this morning, I quite literally froze! Ten years since we started the DNA Project, five years of pushing it through Parliament and then one day, the news quietly slips into my Inbox. No fanfare, no sound of champagne corks, no fireworks, just the barely inaudible ‘ping’ from my Inbox that I have new mail. Yet the impact of this news is groundbreaking, and as it slowly dawns on me that we are on the brink of changing the way in which we can now fight crime in this country and hold criminals accountable for their actions, it also dawns on me that it has been at great cost to all the lives that have been lost and damaged as a result of crime in South Africa. For all those victims of crime, this Act symbolises hope and most importantly another nail in the lid of what I hope will one day be the coffin of crime in our country.

Roll on the new DNA Act 37 of 2013!

The first official copy of the DNA Act in the Government Gazette

The first official copy of the DNA Act in the Government Gazette

Thank you to everyone who has played such a significant role in fighting for this important law to be passed. The promulgation of this Act is a collective victory and we must continue to fight to ensure that it is effectively implemented.

with thanks

Vanessa Lynch & The DNA Project Team

Reflecting back on 2013

Thu, Dec 5th, 2013

OPERATION: THANK YOU!

As the year draws to a close, may we take this opportunity to warmly thank all of our generous sponsors and supporters who make our work possible. Your continued belief in our cause has enabled us to help make positive changes in South Africa. We hope that we have demonstrated our commitment to these values and objectives in a constructive, meaningful and effective manner throughout 2013. We invite you to please read our Annual DNA Project Newsletter to see what we have been busy with during the course of this year as well as a get a glimpse into our objectives for 2014.

with kind thanks from

The DNA Project Team

From left to right: Jenna, David, Valerie, Carolyn, Tony, Tanya, Renate, Grant, Maya, Vanessa & Lee (Not in photo: Rhys)

Lessons from Lyon: feedback from 7th International DNA User’s Conference held at Interpol

Mon, Nov 25th, 2013

It seems hard to believe that two weeks ago Carolyn and I were sitting at the Interpol’s HQ in Lyon, France where we attended the 7th International DNA User’s Conference. Thanks to the generous sponsorship of the OSF-SA, Carolyn and I were able to attend this fascinating forensic DNA conference where I not only had the opportunity to present the provisions of the new DNA Bill in South Africa to the international forensic DNA community, but where we were able to learn more about the latest developments in this technology and hear from other countries about the status of their DNA databases and the laws and regulations which govern their databases, some interesting case studies, research papers as well as debates around misunderstandings of ethical issues oft raised around DNA profiling in a forensic context.

Vanessa Lynch & Carolyn Hancock arriving at the Interpol HQ's in Lyon, France to attend the 7th International DNA User's Conference

Vanessa Lynch & Carolyn Hancock arriving at Interpol's HQ in Lyon, France to attend the 7th International DNA User's Conference

Three particular presentations stood out for both Carolyn and I, namely: Advances in DNA investigations delivered by Prof Manfred Kayser; the latest DNA analysing device called Rapid DNA which is capable of producing a DNA profile directly from a sample within 90 minutes and the highly entertaining joint presentation given by Judge Arthur Tompkins and Dr Simon Walsh discussing the use of DNA profiling in a court of law. There were over 40 different presentations relating to forensic DNA , given over the course of the three days, but I have provided a brief summary of three of our favourite presentations below, as we are sure you will find them as interesting and exciting as we did.

The Keynote presentation delivered by Prof. Manfred Kayser from the Netherlands spoke around the issue of enhancing police operations through the advances in DNA investigations. Prof Kayser calls himself a ‘curiosity driven scientist’ and certainly through the research he is doing, it’s not hard to see why. The first advancement he discussed was around the issue of male specific Y-STR’s (short tandem repeats). As we know, it is difficult to differentiate between different male DNA profiles when a crime scene sample contains more than one DNA profile. These are commonly referred to as ‘mixed profiles’. The research into this area is taking place around looking at mutations present in the DNA profile which will help identify which profile belongs to which suspect. Instead of looking at more markers on the DNA profile, Prof Kayser suggests looking at the ‘mutation rate’ present in a DNA profile — in other words, if you have a marker with a high mutation rate it’s easier to distinguish between related males. Instead of using the current DNA profiling kit called ‘Y-filer’, current research is around developing new kits which use rapid mutation STR’s called RM Y.STRS. If this research results in a useable kit which does indeed differentiate between different male profiles in a mixed profile, this will certainly be useful in South Africa where the incidence of gang rape is so high.

Another fascinating advancement Prof Keyser discussed was the ability to identify the cellular origin of a sample. This is useful when the biological source of the sample is unknown. For example, if the clothing found at a crime scene contains a crime scene stain, it may be useful in an investigation to show if that source is semen, saliva or blood. Prof Kayser submits that they will soon be able to differentiate between biological sources as varied as saliva, ‘touch DNA’ (i.e., skin cells), blood, hairs, blood, menstrual blood, semen and vaginal secretions.

Interpol HQ's Lyon

Waiting for a bus outside Interpol's HQ

Currently we are not able to establish from a DNA sample, how old it is, which would help indicate when the crime was committed. We are also not able to say at what time of the day it was deposited. This however may soon be possible as research is being conducted by looking at the melatonin and cortisol in a DNA sample to determine the time of day and age of that sample.

These advancements may all be well and good, but often one only has a single, precious DNA sample from a crime scene to work with, and in that case, because the amount of DNA is so limited, all of these tests would not be able to be performed. Prof Keyser reports that this issue may be overcome with the use of what he calls a ‘DNA Chip’ which takes a snip from one DNA sample and allows many different test to be performed using a single DNA chip.

Exciting stuff, and certainly in South Africa, these types of advancements would greatly enhance police investigations.

The issue of back logs and delays is an oft spoken about subject, and South Africa is not the only country where complaints are levelled at our Forensic Science Labs for delays in processing DNA samples… Imagine now if a law enforcement agent (as they are referred to in the USA – i.e. a police officer) was able to take a sample from an arrestee, pop it into a machine and send a request to securely submit the resultant DNA profile to the DNA Database within 90 minutes of loading that sample. This may sound farfetched, but ‘Rapid DNA technology’, as it is commonly known, is very real. And we were there to prove it. During a tea break, Carolyn and I submitted our DNA saliva samples to a Rapid DNA machine, and 90 minutes later were emailed our DNA profile! Whilst this technology is still being rolled out and is only capable of analysing 5 samples per run, in those instances where a quick result is required, this would be priceless. The advantages of this technology are that it can be performed by nontechnical users outside of the lab, i.e., police officers, there is no manual processing of the sample, the machines do not require calibration or data interpretation and it literally provides out of the box functionality. Oh, and it also doesn’t matter what type of sample is dropped into the cartridge!

What to do for an hour and a half in Lyon... hmm... Shopping? Sightseeing? Create a DNA profile?... Oh, absolutely YES please! Vanessa and Carolyn had the wonderful chance to submit their DNA samples to be tested in the new rapid DNA analyzer... 90 minutes later their profiles were ready! Simply amazing!

What to do for an hour and a half in Lyon... hmm... Shopping? Sightseeing? Create a DNA profile?... Oh, absolutely YES please! Vanessa and Carolyn had the wonderful chance to submit their DNA samples to be tested in the new rapid DNA analyzer... 90 minutes later their profiles were ready! Simply amazing!

The last but by no means least of the presentations over the course of the three days was the highly entertaining joint presentation by New Zealand Judge Arthur Tompkins and Australian Forensic Scientist Dr Simon Walsh entitled ‘That’s the defendants DNA!’. This lively debate discussed the issue of probabilities and the way in which scientists express the probability of a defendant having the same DNA profile as the crime scene profile, in court. As we well know, the weight of admissibility of any type of evidence is based on certainty, and if evidence is expressed as a probability, it may lead some to think that because it is not expressed as a certainty, its admissibility is thereby negatively affected. Dr Walsh has had firsthand experience of this in court where DNA evidence despite being presented as a probability so remote (i.e., one in an octillion chance of two people having the same DNA profile) led it to be dismissed because it was not expressed as a ‘certainty’. Dr Walsh then looked at how discriminating DNA is as evidence, and the fact that with the advances in technology in this

Vanessa and Carolyn enjoying a quick break outside the Interpol headquarters with fellow guest speaker Tim Zolandz of the FBI (CODIS Missing Persons / International Progam Manager).

Vanessa and Carolyn enjoying a quick break outside the Interpol headquarters with fellow guest speaker Tim Zolandz of the FBI (CODIS Missing Persons / International Progam Manager).

arena, the probabilities of two people having the same DNA profile are even smaller. In other words, if the probability or likelihood of another person having the same DNA profile as that of the crime scene sample, are one in an octillion which is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 i.e. ten to the forty-eighth power, and there are only around 7 billion [7,000,000,000 i.e. ten to the power of nine] people in the world, then the weight of admissibility in respect of that evidence, you will agree, is extremely high!. Dr Walsh has suggested then that the way a probability as high as this is expressed in court should be changed and perhaps instead of expressing it in probabilities one should simply say there is more chance of you being hit by a meteor or eaten by a shark than there is of having the same DNA profile of another person. A leap of faith needs to be taken by scientists to express it as a certainty then, because the science is robust enough to allow for it. But these are issues of law, and Judge Arthur Tompkins reckons that in the words of Albert Einstein, if you can’t explain it simply enough then you don’t understand it well enough! As a Judge, he acknowledges that the likelihood ratios are getting bigger and bigger the more loci we use to identify a person through DNA profiling. But what he can’t understand is why the forensic experts won’t just say that IS the defendants DNA! He questions why they won’t simply do this and whether they are legally liable to do so now because the science is robust enough to allow for it.

7th International DNA User's Conference delegates

7th International DNA User's Conference delegates

So: why won’t scientists take the next step? Perhaps it is because the statistical analysis has not simply answered the question the justice system is asking and that is: is this proof beyond reasonable doubt that it is the defendant’s DNA?

Simply answered, yes it is.

They are not seeking the scientific or statistical answer. They are asking is this proof beyond reasonable doubt that it does. This high standard of proof in a criminal court of law as opposed to absolute proof, is enough for all other forms of evidence, so should be enough for DNA too, which is probably the most reliable form of evidence available today!

So the question is: Are you sure?
And if the scientists are sure, why don’t they simply say: yes, I’m sure?
So if as a forensic scientist, and if you are sure, then you can say that you are sure.
And you should say you are sure!
Sounds a bit like Dr Seuss, which to me always made sense anyway!

The above three presentations were just some of the highlights of the three days spent listening to over 47 countries present over 40 subjects in this fascinating field. Not only did we enjoy every one, but the camaraderie and friendships that were renewed and made, were very special.

The Interpol Conference is unique insofar as it is a relatively small group of people passionate about their work and the advances in this technology, who are able to mix on both a professional and social level too. Every evening Carolyn and I were joined by different people from different countries where we shared our stories over French food and wine, and many laughs.

Vanessa and Carolyn with Susan Hitchin, Forensics Sub-Directorate at Interpol

Vanessa and Carolyn with Susan Hitchin, Forensics Sub-Directorate at Interpol

It was with sad hearts that we said goodbye to everyone on the last day, and to the beautiful city of Lyon, where hopefully we will be invited to participate in the next and 8th International DNA User’s conference.

Thank you OSF-SA for enabling us to participate in this incredible forum.

Vanessa Lynch